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Post by billywhizz on Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:54 am

good morning guys, does anyone know how too disable the stop /start on the Vitara please. I have looked at other forums /you tube and such and gathered some info . the dealers wont turn it off permenantly so that option is off the table. the simplest one ive seen is on a vw forum, linking into a fuse with a one way diode and then taking that feed into the stop/start switch. ive seen various ebay and you tube offerings from Europe for about £30 which is a harness and switching box. any ideas ?we must have someone on the forum who understands the workings of this and could offer a solution.

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Post by JDVitara on Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:01 am

I found this ... YOUTUBE LINK ... some time ago, but I've not been on the car to check it out.

It looks like there's some sort of reed/micro switch in the bonnet latch arrangement which when, either moved out of the way or re-positioned it must 'sense' the bonnets open???

Unfortunately, part of the video where the guy alters the location of the 'green/blue switch' is not in the camera shot, also as he says in his write-up - there's no need to remove the screws that attach the black cover to the grill section.
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Post by tigersaw on Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:25 am

I leave the air con on - that seems to work.
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Post by billywhizz on Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:55 am

JDVitara wrote:I found this ... YOUTUBE LINK ... some time ago, but I've not been on the car to check it out.

It looks like there's some sort of reed/micro switch in the bonnet latch arrangement which when, either moved out of the way or re-positioned it must 'sense' the bonnets open???

Unfortunately, part of the video where the guy alters the location of the 'green/blue switch' is not in the camera shot, also as he says in his write-up - there's no need to remove the screws that attach the black cover to the grill section.
Jd, thanks for the info,, ive seen something like this on my travels around the forums, I think what was said in the end was if you disconnect the switch or move it away from the closed position then you get open door/bonnet light come up on the dash and it registers a fault in the ecu .

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Post by billywhizz on Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:58 am

tigersaw wrote:I leave the air con on - that seems to work.
tigersaw, yep that will work everytime also if the engines not up too temp that will do it. the only thing with leaving the air con on all the time is the extra hp needed by the engine and extra fuel consumption. but it deff does work.

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Post by juandiazmora on Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:31 am

You can also set the climate control to front defrost without AC and the start/stop will not work

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Post by billywhizz on Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 am

I will give that a try thanks for that.

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Post by alec on Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:10 pm

I've found that if you press that button on the dash to the right of the steering wheel that says "A Off" when you start the car up the start stop switches off.
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Post by Bazzer on Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:08 pm

Alec, Thats too easy.

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Post by AKC1 on Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:15 pm

When it kept shutting down and doing it to me, i got out the car and beat it with an olive branch.
Never done it again since.

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Post by Berny4631 on Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:28 pm

On peut inhiber le S&S :

- Avec un petit montage électronique connecté sur le bouton du tableau de bord, qui simule un appui sur le bouton à chaque démarrage (le bouton reste actif).

- Ou définitivement en modifiant le câblage du switch du capot moteur.

Voir blog :

http://blogs.caradisiac.com/berny-blog/

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Post by billywhizz on Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:32 pm

Berny4631 wrote:On peut inhiber le S&S :

- Avec un petit montage électronique connecté sur le bouton du tableau de bord, qui simule un appui sur le bouton à chaque démarrage (le bouton reste actif).

- Ou définitivement en modifiant le câblage du switch du capot moteur.

Voir blog :

http://blogs.caradisiac.com/berny-blog/
???????????? , sorry no understand. I have a mate working on this with me, he turned up this morning and said try this,,, on the battery is a 4xwire harness plugged onto the battery lead, its a feed for extra charging when the battery gets low due too stop start and such, we tried it! it works but ! the stop /start light flashes when its disconnected, so no go with this mod Crying or Very sad , o well we tried on too the next mod. hes looking at buying a timer chip board and using it like the hungarian guy on ebay sells.i will let you know how we get on.

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Post by Berny4631 on Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:14 am

Je n'ai pas fait la modif S&S avec le switch du capot moteur sur ma voiture, mais il est effectivement normal que le voyant S&S clignote si on débranche le connecteur. Il faut modifier le câblage pour simuler une ouverture permanente du capot.
La modification qui consiste à ajouter un petit circuit électronique branché sur les fils du bouton S&S est préférable. stop /start Schzom10

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Post by billywhizz on Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:20 pm

after much searching on the net and checking the car I settled for an ebay unit that fit and the back of the s/s switch. BIG problem they don't make them for the Vitara so refunded the money. back too the drawing board .

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Post by tigersaw on Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:34 pm

I can see how the circuit works, 4060 (ripple counter) is used to create a short pulse after a delay on connection. Not sure what the delay is, but its a compromise between leaving the gap too short and the simulated button press too long. 3 connections, two to the switch contacts and one to vehicle ground.
It could be hand made for a few pounds, but it does seem a lot of effort just to avoid pressing the switch manually.
I note in the parts list the capacitors stated in millifarad, I assume its a typo (or French notation) as they would be physically enormous, should be microfarad.
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Post by Admin on Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:43 pm

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B07KS2NJKV

Try the above via Google translate but not sure if they ship to the UK

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Post by suzukhalid on Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:18 pm

Interesting find Karl 👍
You can buy stuff off Amazon Japan using a middle man service such as buyee who would buy it on your behalf and then post it to you for a fee.

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Post by Admin on Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:49 pm

I have a contact in Japan who i purchase items from for my JDM cars/Bikes but i dont like to take advantage by ordering 10 or 20 Stop/Start modules lol!

If you search some sellers on Amazon Japan they do ship to the UK and can bypass the middle man fee's, there are also several ebay sellers from Japan such as wwwisicarcom who will list items you ask them for, i had an HKS Silencer for my Jimny sent this way  Cool

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Post by Admin on Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:15 pm

Another item listed for a YE21S Escudo...

https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/auc-green/item/g0000014031/

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Post by JDVitara on Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:57 am

Found this ... STOP START MODULE ages ago.

If you need a price, contact him by his email listed in the SHOW MORE section of his description.
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Post by suzuki-loops on Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:21 am

Note that the module only works on the full size switches as per the video, not the half size ones. I emailed him a year or so ago and he wasn't able to help me.

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Post by K1K on Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:12 pm

Leave the stop/start working, think of the children Rolling Eyes Very Happy

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Post by Berny4631 on Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:38 pm

Les condensateurs ne sont pas notés en milli-Farads (mF), mais en nano-Farads (nF) !

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Post by tigersaw on Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:10 pm

You have the values right here:


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I note the added C4 for supply line filtering
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Post by Bazzer on Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:52 pm

I've learnt to modify my braking so as stop/start rarely kicks in.

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