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Post by Yorkshire pud on Fri May 15, 2020 7:18 pm

Are there any known rust issues with the vitara ?
I've had a good look under mine today and noticed the jacking points all have rust starting to form on them...
I hope it doesn't go up behind the plastic sill covers.
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Post by Admin on Fri May 15, 2020 10:02 pm

Not a problem as far as I am aware?

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Post by Yorkshire pud on Fri May 15, 2020 10:12 pm

Laughing  that's a serious case of rust it's even migrated to the plastic bits Very Happy
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Post by Admin on Fri May 15, 2020 11:14 pm

On a serious note I think like most modern cars rust prevention (waxoyl/underseal) is non existent as standard as they aim for lightweight and better MPG/Emissions etc along with this modern paints and plated parts have also had all the nasty stuff removed and no longer seem to last

I could however still been tempted with type of the rust prevention as standard on Suzuki's in Iceland...

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...and Germany

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SUZUKI GERMANY wrote: Suzuki models for the German market have an extensive treatment with protective wax for the underbody, the cavities and the engine compartment.....  


To give a bit of an idea on long term corrosion meet Ginger (my daily driver/commuter to keep the miles off my Vitara) and also the predecessor to the Vitara/S-Cross made at the same factory in Hungary...

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…  a 2008 SX4 Diesel (1.9 Fiat Engine) that has done 116,000miles and you would be surprised how many parts it shares with the current Vitara/S-Cross
It has been a rural/farm car with its previous two owners on the Shropshire/Welsh borders with plenty of dirt/mud/dust etc to prove it and bodily there is only the slightest of surface rust underneath, it has had advisories on last MOT for corrosion on rear brake pipes and fuel filler pipe but having checked them myself I think the MOT tester was just after a bit of work from the previous owner...….if my Vitara is this rust free at 12 years old I wont have any complaints thumbl

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Post by Hutchy on Sat May 16, 2020 5:24 am

i am in the process of using a corroless product from arcrite paints,it,s the stuff used in the marine environment but is very good on cars too,i have already done my rear arches and rear floor pan after removing the rear exhaust and heat shield as well as the arch liners,i need to get some more paint so i can do under the plastic floor panels exhaust center center section it,s just to help protect from the salt,last job is spraying cavity wax.will do some pics when finished Wink
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Post by K1K on Sat May 16, 2020 9:01 pm

I use ACF 50 on everything, cars vans bikes, I have a serious phobia where rust is concerned, its easy to apply and I never have any problems with corrosion.
I will be treating Tara shortly and then again before winter .

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Post by Yorkshire pud on Sat May 16, 2020 9:33 pm

Theres certainly no shortage of products on the market all claiming to prevent and stop rust its difficult to choose the best one.
Anyone know if xcp rust blocker is any good for under car protection?
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Post by Hutchy on Sun May 17, 2020 5:57 am

over the last 20 years i have used hammerite waxoyl (crap its watered down since ICI sold hammerite) dinitrol again crap (goes hard peels off water gets behind it) carplan waxoyl (sort of ok stays soft and flexible but you get covered in it if you work on your own car) POR15 a USA paint product takes a lot of prep expensive,(overall ok but rust can come back if not prepped right)..Bilt hamber epoxy resin paint good but metal needs shot blasting first.Rust buster mil spec wax (ok but needs to be reapplied every year.).Arcrite corroless rust treatment and glass flake reinforced top coat paint (yet to see the results) Exclamation
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Post by AKC1 on Sun May 17, 2020 7:21 am

ACF50 and XCP............brilliant stuff... used on my motorbikes for years and both work brilliantly.
I do spray some into the inside of doors where there is easy access, but the design of a car makes it impossible to  cover all the components as you can on a bike.
Although being very fussy and a little ocd, i try to put my trust in current Suzuki's factory rust prevention and treatments.. (not perfect by no means!) , whereby i just regularly spray underneath with a lot of water and soap to keep salt off.

All cars are designed to last about 10 to 12 years with normal use. At this time any vehicle is only worth a few quid in your back pocket, so i just accept that its time to bin it and buy another ex demo or year old one to last another decade.
If there was a real world way of keeping my vehicles like they just came out the showroom forever i would be the first to use it, but unfortunately we have to accept the inevitable deterioration over time and can only slow it down.

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Post by billywhizz on Sun May 17, 2020 8:57 pm

I think I will give mine a miss this time, it lasts 10 years im doing well as I wont be driving by then or dead and buried Laughing Laughing this could be my last car ! but hey I like it better than most ive had thats for sure.

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Post by kwikphix328 on Mon May 18, 2020 5:17 pm

I have used ACF50 and Lear 'Corrosion Block' Grease on motorbikes for years, ( grease on Steering Head stock and Wheel Bearings ) great stuff.

We used to use it on some of the Exposed flying control rods at the articulated eye ends and hinges, and the grease in particular was fantastic.
When doing scheduled maintenance checks the untreated and treated parts were like night and day, definitely extended the life components with bearings.

I wish I had spent the extra and got my Vitara rust proofed when new, however by a specialist. I don't think the "Superguard" protection treatment i had on my car was particularly good.
Probably better taking the car to a detailer and giving them my £250 with hindsight.
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Post by Yorkshire pud on Mon May 18, 2020 5:53 pm

Do the dealers carry out and under body anti corrosion treatment?
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Post by Admin on Mon May 18, 2020 5:58 pm

I don't think they do anymore, in the early 80's it was an option , my 85 SJ410 has plenty of it around the engine bay and it has several plastic caps where they have injected the inner body as well

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Post by Yorkshire pud on Tue May 19, 2020 4:29 pm

Decided to put the rear of my vitara up on the ramps and clean underneath then apply a liberal spray of xcp rust blocker.
Also found out why the jacking points have rust on them!
Looks like after being welded into place they apply a dab of sealant and then its painted over, on my car the sealant has split and dropped of exposing bare metal underneath.
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Post by Hutchy on Tue May 19, 2020 6:40 pm

mine was a little like that on the rear passenger side jacking point,it,s seam sealer that they use and i am not sure why it would come off as that stuff is pretty solid once cured..but better to find it now and do something than leave it and have a big mess later Wink
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Post by JDVitara on Tue May 19, 2020 6:48 pm

Well spotted, many thanks. thumbl
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Post by Yorkshire pud on Tue May 19, 2020 6:56 pm

I think I'm going to opt for the edd china repair of rust converter and stonechip spray! Unless anyone can recomend an alternative
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Post by Hutchy on Tue May 19, 2020 8:42 pm

Some stonechip paints are not waterproof mind.they are designed to be Over painted or lacquered over.


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Post by Admin on Wed May 20, 2020 12:01 am

Not the cheapest product but some interesting reading here....

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I think this is what Suzuki used in the 1980's

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