Timing Belt 60 Months or 87500 Miles

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Post by Eagerbeaver Tue May 11, 2021 2:43 pm

I've just ordered my parts and am planning to do this job when I have a spare few hours. Having looked closely at the car, it doesn't look too difficult (famous last words).

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Post by TWSaab Wed May 12, 2021 10:57 am

I don't know the Suzuki diesel engines but it sounds as if they are the same, or a derivative of, the Fiat 1.9 engine used in Fiats, Alfas, Saabs and Vauxhalls.
My experience is mainly Saabs where it is recommended that the belt is changed at 60k intervals (although the handbook recommendation has varied from 90k downwards due to US marketing requirements) along with the water pump. It is frequently the water pump which seizes and takes out the belt in these cars. It happened on my sons 9-3 at about 65k when it was already booked in for the belt change. Although the engines are designed with 'sacrificial' rocker arms which break to avoid damage to the pistons and valves in his case it also cracked the cam carrier, repair was around £1400 back in 2014.
Apologies if the Suzuki engine is completely different but just wanted to note that with the Saab/Vauxhall version the replacement of the water pump is considered paramount using OE parts.
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Post by Admin Wed May 12, 2021 1:23 pm

Yes it is the Fiat fit all, I mean Fiat JTD...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_JTD_engine

Absolute cracking engine, fast, plenty of torque...........until they go wrong
I have avoided Suzuki with Diesels for 30+ years until last year I purchased a SX4 4grip with a 1.9 Diesel 85k with full Suzuki main dealer history (The last service bill was more than I paid for the car)
Initially I was wow what have I been missing, then it died 6months in and the first time I have ever not made it home in a Suzuki vehicle.............it was fixed and gone within 48hrs

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Post by Eagerbeaver Fri May 14, 2021 8:20 am

I think the comment that they're great until they go wrong can be said of most modern engines. I've only done 50K in my 1.6 diesel so really wouldn't expect anything at just over 5 years old but love the torque and the amazing economy. Ask me what I think of it once I've done the timing belt. Sat reading the manual in my arm chair, it doesn't look too difficult.

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Post by Eagerbeaver Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:55 pm

I finally got around to changing my belt, tensioner, pulley and water pump.

It really isn't a difficult job and easily done on the drive in an afternoon.

Initially it looks like there is lots of room but it turns out that there's just enough.

The hardest part for me was bleeding the cooling system. Who thought hiding the bleed cap was a good idea.

My car hasn't quite done 50K but is over 5 years old. I've got to say that after looking at what I've taken off, it really didn't need it but at least I know it's done now.




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Post by HILLCLIMBER Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:53 pm

Had a quote from the dealership I bought the car from for cambelt change, quote was £900 and stated engine must be removed , time listed as 8.7 hours, (so presumably not done in one day), no list of any parts on quote, job done by my local garage this Monday, dropped car off at 8-30, ready to collect 2-30, will report on cost when I get the bill.
Car is diesel all grip, only 35,000 miles but five years old so  decided that allowing for the extra strain on the belt with the stop start it would be prudent to change .
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Post by imack Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:20 am

Suzuki do say that the engine needs removing to replace the cam belt but I know it can be done with the engine in place although space is limited.
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Post by Stuartpccsek Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:09 pm

Mines is going in to a local garage on Wednesday. I have the 2017 1.6D Allgrip. I've asked for the timing belt and water pump to be done at the same time and also a full service. Mines is only 4 years old but its at 82k miles ( i do about 90 miles a day to work and back ). So far the cars been faultless ( had an 05 Ignis from new for years and never let me down ) but for peace of mind i keep it serviced regulary. I will let you know final cost once i have stopped crying on Wednesday :-)
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Post by imack Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:11 pm

Wise move getting the water pump done at the same time, especially at that mileage.
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Post by Stuartpccsek Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:58 pm

Sorry for the delay. Only just picked the car up. Turned into a bigger job than they anticipated as they had to remove the egr valve and drop the fuel lines and bottom wishbone. All in for the timing belt kit, water pump, anti freeze ( oil and air filters and oil , as I asked them to do a service too ) wheel alignment ( as they dropped the suspension ) and a diagnostic check with labour and vat included it came to the princely sum of £780.65. All in I don't think it was too bad, certainly couldn't have tackled it myself. Took the car and run and it sounds and feels okay. That's it for another 82k miles :-)
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Post by Eagerbeaver Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:50 pm

I'm not sure why they had to drop the suspension. Having done the timing belt, idlers and water pump on mine, there was no need to touch the suspension. £781 for all that though seems fair.

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Post by HILLCLIMBER Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:14 pm

Just got the account from my local garage  for changing the timing belt on my Vitara and very pleasantly surprised, details below.
Labour £159.25
Cambelt/water pump kit  £139.51
Auxiliary belt  £22.17
Antifreeze  £9.99
VAT   £66.18        Total £397.10

Not bad in my opinion.
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Post by Eagerbeaver Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:14 pm

It's an easy enough job to do but that sounds a great price. I've not heard of anyone getting it done as cheaply as that. Well done!!

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