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Post by Kieranm105 Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:14 pm

Hutchy wrote:bilstein have no UK stock of B6 shocks until end of August, from what i was told, due to a backlog created by the pandemic, but then this Russia carry on has pushed it back further, as for the springs i cannot help there...

That's what I'm coming up against, the cheapest I've found that is in stock is from Germany.
Will keep looking around.

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Post by Kieranm105 Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:18 pm

Admin wrote:I'm not sure the Eibach springs are suitable for the Diesel due to the weight of the engine, I fitted a set of MAD lift springs to a Diesel that were Diesel specific part numbers
If interested they were removed after 500miles due to the owner purchasing a 1.4 Boosterjet

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That could be why I've been struggling then. I'll have a look at MAD Lift springs. I'm not looking for springs and shocks for offroad driving. Just want better quality if replacing them.

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Post by Kieranm105 Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:46 pm


These are the cheapest at £312 for a set.

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Post by Admin Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:32 pm

The Diesel MAD Lift Springs...

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Post by Kieranm105 Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:28 pm

Admin wrote:The Diesel MAD Lift Springs...

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Any insurance issues in UK?

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Post by Admin Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:50 pm

Not as long as you declare it, MAD and Eibach springs all come with TUV/EU type approval unlike dome cheaper lift kits

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Post by bikerbyte Wed May 18, 2022 5:17 pm

Jakey321 wrote:Thanks imack, looks really good!

Think I’ll save up some more and get it done, I have the hybrid vitara, but I have mobility issues so being that higher will be easier for me. I’ve had vitara’s for years so want to stick with them, Honda CRV is higher but I’m not a fan of them.



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I have a Hybrid allgrip MY 2020, from the tunershop site I bought the model of the Eibach E30-80-013-01-22 springs and the configurator said "suitable for hybrid my 2020" ... ok, my mechanic replacing the springs behind everything ok, but the front springs was not able to replace them because the front Eibach springs do not end up in a flattened way like the originals and when he tried to mount them on their bumpers these springs came out of their seat and therefore it was not a good job to do

Vendor had contacted me sayng that are not suitable for my car !!!!!
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Post by Admin Wed May 18, 2022 7:09 pm

I don't have access to a Hybrid parts manual so can't confirm if the springs or front struts are different to a non Hybrid?

I have however seen Hybrid Vitaras with Eibach lifts by German Suzuki dealers....

https://vivavitara.forumotion.co.uk/t1691-vitara-hybrid-ranger-koster

If you look at picture 6 you can see the grey/silver eibach spring (Other lift kit by MAD is bright blue)

I may have some other Hybrid/Eibach images on my pc at home

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Post by imack Wed May 18, 2022 7:14 pm

I've just been looking a the Suzuki parts manual and can confirm that the mild hybrid and full hybrid have a completely different part number range when compared with the non hybrid Vitaras.
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Post by Admin Wed May 18, 2022 7:44 pm

Is that coils or struts and spring seats as well Iain?

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Post by imack Wed May 18, 2022 8:39 pm

I should have said in the above post that the part number range for the springs on the hybrids are completely different to the part number range on the non hybrid models.
Both hybrid and non hybrid (back to 2015 models) use the same part numbers for both the front struts and the upper and lower spring seats, so I'm surprised that the Eibach's don't fit.
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Post by imack Wed May 18, 2022 8:50 pm

The original springs from my 2016 Vitara S don't have ends that are ground flat.
I'll have to try and look at the ends of the springs on a hybrid Vitara now next time I get one in.
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Post by Admin Wed May 18, 2022 9:03 pm

Thanks for taking the time to check the part numbers Iain, like yourself I checked my original 2017 S springs and they are also round, yet if the struts and spring seats are the same part number I don't see why they will not fit

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Post by imack Wed May 18, 2022 9:09 pm

Only thing I can think as the struts and seats are the same part numbers is that maybe they've tried to install them upside-down, but surely not??
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Post by Admin Wed May 18, 2022 10:04 pm

Just looking at the MAD Springs website and as before they list two types of Lift Kit for the Petrol and one for the Diesel but interestingly they now list the Diesel as also suitable for the Hybrid

LIFT SPRINGS PETROL
HV-391081

Approval: TUV
Type: LY
2WD & 4WD
Height difference in mm: 35/40
Assembly time in minutes: 120
For cars made in: 02/2015 - present day
Engine: Petrol

LIFT SPRINGS DIESEL/HYBRID
HV-391091

Approval: TUV
Type: LY
2WD & 4WD
Height difference in mm: 35/40
Assembly time in minutes: 120
For cars made in: 02/2015 - present day
Engine: Diesel, Hybrid

Having fitted MAD Springs to a Diesel Vitara in the past again they are regular round springs as on the petrol, the only difference is the higher rating for the weight of the diesel engine, there are no flat sections...

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Post by Admin Wed May 18, 2022 10:30 pm

Also just found on the Eibach.DE website that the kit is listed as suitable for the Mild Hybrid K14D...

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http://web2.carparts-cat.com/default.aspx?34=0,2047566&240=0&32=140419&230=29&1271=48&1272=9fe6dbe9-91eb-468e-8d56-d71cb61142bd&10=47EAB3715BE248479BEB6C2E01B2391B279015&14=4&12=130

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Post by Admin Wed May 18, 2022 10:42 pm

My 1.4S with Eibach Pro Lift and 215/60R16 Yokohama Geolandars...

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Post by bikerbyte Thu May 19, 2022 6:57 am

imack wrote:Only thing I can think as the struts and seats are the same part numbers is that maybe they've tried to install them upside-down,  but surely not??


Sorry, but maybe I explained myself in wrong way,
... my mechanic says that the last spiral of the Eibach front springs come up obliquely and therefore when he tries to put them inside the seat of the suspension this does not lean perfectly, while the original front springs rest well in their seat
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Post by bikerbyte Thu May 19, 2022 7:28 am

Admin wrote:Also just found on the Eibach.DE website that the kit is listed as suitable for the Mild Hybrid K14D...

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http://web2.carparts-cat.com/default.aspx?34=0,2047566&240=0&32=140419&230=29&1271=48&1272=9fe6dbe9-91eb-468e-8d56-d71cb61142bd&10=47EAB3715BE248479BEB6C2E01B2391B279015&14=4&12=130

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karl,
it's just the kit I bought, if you look at the top left it says it's for the Mild Hybrid like my car,

if you take a look

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..but if you then click on "APPROVAL" you open a document where it says in detail "not for vehicles with hybrid drive .." as seen from the part highlighted in yellow .... I honestly don't know what to think!!!
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Post by imack Thu May 19, 2022 7:58 pm

That document looks to be just a bit of general info. Says not for 'plug in hybrid', the vitara is a self charging hybrid. It also mentions not for air suspension or vehicles with ride height control, none of these are applicable to the Vitara.
Below is a picture taken today of a 2021 K14D manual fwd mild hybrid vitara O/S Front road spring with the suspension at full droop.EIBACH +25MM PRO LIFT KIT  - Page 2 20220512
Below is my 2016 Vitara S with Eibach +25mm with the suspension in the running position. EIBACH +25MM PRO LIFT KIT  - Page 2 20220513
Both springs appear to seat equally.
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Post by Admin Sun May 22, 2022 11:34 pm

Not sure if this helps any but this is an Eibach front spring alongside a non Hybrid front coil I installed today....

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Post by Admin Tue May 24, 2022 11:52 pm

Having seen your picture below on Facebook I don't think you have a problem with the springs....

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The upper spring seat in the image below (#18) is not flat, it is offset to position in the strut mount correctly in the body shell

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This mount below is offset to get the correct camber and is located in the correct position when the end of the spring sits in the recess/spring locator on the opposite side

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Post by bikerbyte Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:17 pm

bikerbyte wrote:
Jakey321 wrote:Thanks imack, looks really good!

Think I’ll save up some more and get it done, I have the hybrid vitara, but I have mobility issues so being that higher will be easier for me. I’ve had vitara’s for years so want to stick with them, Honda CRV is higher but I’m not a fan of them.



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Vendor had contacted me sayng that are not suitable for my car !!!!!
SHITTT




Ok gentlemen, I finally solved. I managed to mount the Eibach Space Lift springs on the front too ... In practice, after writing to the Eibach Company, they immediately activated by contacting me and asking me for the details of the problem ... well you won't believe it but after 10 days I had at home the right springs and totally free. The custome service of the German company even bothered by phoning me. This is seriousness. The machine now absorbs the holes in a much more composed and silent way, it is higher and I like it more and when the load does not "sit" down ... Thanks Eibach ..... now I try to post photos of the springs correct in case anyone is interested. Thanks for everything ... really.
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Post by bikerbyte Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:21 pm

This is the right Front Springs Code for 'my' Vitara Allgrip 2020 Hybrid




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