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Post by suzuki-loops on Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:43 am

On the days when you want to put a smile on your face sport mode is the answer

ditto!

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Post by JDVitara on Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:50 am

suzuki-loops wrote:
On the days when you want to put a smile on your face sport mode is the answer

ditto!

Totally agree.
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Post by blastpipe on Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:24 am

Glad you think the same - It is a totally different car when you flick to sport 'smile on your face/eat my dust' mode Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by kwikphix328 on Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:52 am

I use sport mode most of the time, I have also found that my fuel economy in sport mode can sometimes be better than auto mode ?
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Post by suzuki-loops on Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:58 am

Interesting that you think the fuel economy is better. I have always restrained myself form using it too often as I assumed the petrol would by pouring out of the exhaust!

May find myself using it a bit more often now Laughing

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Post by STDI on Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:25 pm

kwikphix328 wrote:I use sport mode most of the time, I have also found that my fuel economy in sport mode can sometimes be better than auto mode ?
Do you have an automatic transmission?
I do and using Sport mode it doesn't go into top gear until maybe 100 km/h. So it constantly runs on high rpms and that "should" mean high consumption.
I don't like Sport mode normally because the high rpms. It would be totally different with a manual transmission where you can choose yourself when to shift gear, and still use the positive things whith Sport mode.

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Post by kwikphix328 on Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:22 pm

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kwikphix328 wrote:I use sport mode most of the time, I have also found that my fuel economy in sport mode can sometimes be better than auto mode ?
Do you have an automatic transmission?
I do and using Sport mode it doesn't go into top gear until maybe 100 km/h. So it constantly runs on high rpms and that "should" mean high consumption.
I don't like Sport mode normally because the high rpms. It would be totally different with a manual transmission where you can choose yourself when to shift gear, and still use the positive things whith Sport mode.

I have a July 2017 manual gearbox 1.4S.

On A Roads and Dual Carriageways I am normally moving along in 6th, and often cruise control too -  less to do whilst I am sipping my coffee... Embarassed

If your auto is hanging on to 5th at circa 100 kph you could always click the + flipper and it should change up to 6th, or are you saying that the Auto would tend to change back down into 5th again, this would annoy me.
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Post by STDI on Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:08 pm

With a manual I can understand that Sport mode is more interesting.

With an automatic you can't decide yourself the same way. Even if I choose 6th gear by using the +paddle it goes back to 5th, even in 100 km/h. At least with the slightest uphill.

I actually used Sport mode today longer than I've done before. But it's not for me. And I'm sure Sport mode uses more fuel.

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Post by nib4722 on Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:45 pm

By moving the gear stick to the left will put the auto into manual giving the driver full control of which gear to be in , only changing gear by knocking the gear stick forwards or back , or using the flappy paddles - like a manual but no clutch .

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Post by Yorkshire pud on Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:58 pm

well! never realised how popular automatics are....
I rekon there is more auto users than manual users on this forum Question
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Post by Admin on Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:25 pm

nib4722 wrote:By moving the gear stick to the left will put the auto into manual giving the driver full control of which gear to be in , only changing gear by knocking the gear stick forwards or back , or using the flappy paddles - like a manual but no clutch .

The above only applies to the 1.6 petrol and diesel models, strangely not on the 1.4 engines

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Post by graham04 on Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:54 pm

I think the S Cross has a CVT auto box which is basically a big rubber band, a bit like a twist and go scooter. A tad more sophisticated than that of course but will be different to a conventional auto.

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Post by STDI on Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:43 pm

graham04 wrote:I think the S Cross has a CVT auto box which is basically a big rubber band, a bit like a twist and go scooter. A  tad more sophisticated than that of course but will be different to a conventional auto.  
No, conventional automatic also in S-CROSS.

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Post by STDI on Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:49 pm

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nib4722 wrote:By moving the gear stick to the left will put the auto into manual giving the driver full control of which gear to be in , only changing gear by knocking the gear stick forwards or back , or using the flappy paddles - like a manual but no clutch .

The above only applies to the 1.6 petrol and diesel models, strangely not on the 1.4 engines

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There still is a Manual choice for the Vitara S, not the left but below D. If I choose that the gearbox still overrides me. If I run in high speed and slow down the gearbox shifts down. Then when accelerating I have to shift manually (unless it's overrev I guess, then it shifts). Using manual together with Sport mode is better than just use the paddles since I can run on higher gear. But then it's no longer an automatic. So Sport mode is nothing for me during everyday driving.

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Post by Admin on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:07 pm

STDI wrote:
graham04 wrote:I think the S Cross has a CVT auto box which is basically a big rubber band, a bit like a twist and go scooter. A  tad more sophisticated than that of course but will be different to a conventional auto.  
No, conventional automatic also in S-CROSS.
In the UK pre facelift s-cross were CVT yet I have driven pre facelift S-cross in Iceland with a conventional automatic gearbox

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Post by Admin on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:25 pm

STDI wrote:
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nib4722 wrote:By moving the gear stick to the left will put the auto into manual giving the driver full control of which gear to be in , only changing gear by knocking the gear stick forwards or back , or using the flappy paddles - like a manual but no clutch .

The above only applies to the 1.6 petrol and diesel models, strangely not on the 1.4 engines

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There still is a Manual choice for the Vitara S, not the left but below D. If I choose that the gearbox still overrides me. If I run in high speed and slow down the gearbox shifts down. Then when accelerating I have to shift manually (unless it's overrev I guess, then it shifts). Using manual together with Sport mode is better than just use the paddles since I can run on higher gear. But then it's no longer an automatic. So Sport mode is nothing for me during everyday driving.

I understand there is a manual option before drive on the 1.4 S but on the 1.6 you can shift the lever to the left then move the lever backwards and forwards to change gear as an option to using the paddles

You can see the -M+ position in the lower left of this picture...

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Post by suzuki-loops on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:44 pm

I have the 2017 1.6 petrol SZ5 auto and I don't have that on my car.  Neutral  I have an 'M' one notch down from 'D' and paddles on the steering wheel.

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Post by STDI on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:55 pm

Admin wrote:
STDI wrote:
graham04 wrote:I think the S Cross has a CVT auto box which is basically a big rubber band, a bit like a twist and go scooter. A  tad more sophisticated than that of course but will be different to a conventional auto.  
No, conventional automatic also in S-CROSS.
In the UK pre facelift s-cross were CVT yet I have driven pre facelift S-cross in Iceland with a conventional automatic gearbox

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Ok. Conventional auto in Sweden.

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Post by A Lancashire Lad on Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:50 pm

Hi I've picked my new to me year 2018 Vitara S and so far I love it. I have a question In the owners manual it Show the dash display with the gear number when in manual mode and D when in Auto Mode It also show a picture were it shows a small letter D and next to a number I assume this is the displaying the gear the auto mode it currently in but I can't see in the manual how to activate this display mode I might have missed it so many pages in the manual

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Post by Mcgruja on Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:00 pm

If you change gears using leavers on the stearing wheel, it will show like that, but quickly it will change to D


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Post by A Lancashire Lad on Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:16 pm

Cheers

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Post by JOHNWALES on Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:31 pm

Do all Suzuki Vitaras have paddles ?

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Post by Mcgruja on Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:15 am

All of them with auto gearbox

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Post by JOHNWALES on Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:53 am

Thanks Mcgruja, yes I should have made the automatic aspect more clear.

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Post by graham04 on Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:58 pm

A bonus with an auto is using cruise control. I can drive from Swansea to Newport(60 miles) on the motorway and not do anything other than steer. The car slows down in the traffic, no need to change down a gear or change back up when the traffic gets going again, handy in the average speed camera zones. Set for 70 max of course .

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