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Post by JOHNWALES on Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:42 pm

I have had a recall letter to up grade the ambient temperature  sensor soft ware.   At the same time they will ask me if I want the upgrade for the emissions calibrations,  which they would do at the same time.     I wonder if this up date will have an adverse effect on fuel consumption ?

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Post by HILLCLIMBER on Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:27 pm

I wondered about this as well although I interpreted the statement from Suzuki to mean that although the recall re the ambient temp sensor was in conjunction with DVSA the Euro 6 reprogramming was Suzuki were doing of their own volition as they state  "will be"  rather than" would be " which would be the case if we had any choice in the matter, seems like you have to be a lawyer to work out meanings these days.
Presumably they have tested the new settings and should be able to say what if any difference there may be in fuel economy, it might be better of course, I would assume they are looking for a reduction in emissions so looking to burn less fuel, may even help with the DPF clogging up, I was surprised when mine decided to put the light on at 1700 miles.
I will give my dealer a call tomorrow and ask but I bet I know the answer!!

Seems odd to me for an ambient temp sensor to be the reason for what they describe as an "urgent" recall, In all my years of diagnostics the main control sensors were coolant, airflow , throttle angle , turbo boost and chuck in exhaust gas recirculation valve sensor for good measure with ambient having a relatively negligible effect for fine tuning.

We shall see, might be worth a look on Suzuki web site.
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Post by JOHNWALES on Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:19 am

Thanks Hillclimber for interesting reply

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Post by theforestdweller on Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:56 am

I had my recall letter this morning. Vitara is going in for the temperature sensor fix on Friday. I'm minded NOT to have the emissions control work done until and unless someone can give a definitive response on whether performance and/or fuel consumption are affected.

I'm also going to test drive the new Ignis while the Vitara is undergoing surgery Very Happy
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Post by JohnnyD on Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:50 pm

I had may letter a couple of days ago and am still pondering over the Euro 6 reprogramming. I did a quick Google on the subject and as expected, the VW scandal came top of the list. I did read an article that said, after VW have reprogrammed their engines, so they no longer cheat the emissions standards, drivers are going to be upset to see their "real world" fuel economy figures fall.

So..... I too, am tempted not to have the emissions control work done, unless someone can vouch for the economy remaining the same or improving.

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Post by Phil on Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:47 am

But if you don't have the reprogram done then is there a chance it will fail the MOT when the time comes?
Obviously not a problem if you intend to get rid of the car before then although it may be a question a buyer may ask so may affect resale value. If you do intend to keep the car then there may be some costs involved in getting it through the MOT?
Similarly would any warranty claim on the engine be invalidated if the work wasn't done?

I don't know the answers to these questions just posing them as I'd be interested to know.

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Post by JOHNWALES on Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:28 pm

Had my recall up grade today. The service guy did not really give me an option saying that the two upgrades were linked into one process; so I took the gamble.

I reset my computer to zero after completion; and it appears any differences in fuel consumption are probably minimal. Will need a few weeks of course to be absolutely sure.

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Post by HILLCLIMBER on Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:01 pm

John I think this makes you member No 001 of the Vitara Diesel Guinea Pig club !!
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Post by Badfx on Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:30 pm

Had mine done last week. I can't help with the mpg though as the car sits idling for 10min's most mornings melting the ice.
It was also it's first service at the same time. It took an 1 hour and 20 mins . Seems like a long time for an oil change and a quick look round the car.

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Post by JOHNWALES on Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:21 pm

The ambient and emission up grade apparently takes about an hour, but no doubt this can be done at the same time as the service. I was pleased that my dealer J & J Motors Cross Hands gave the car a decent wash at the same time.

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Post by Badfx on Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:31 pm

They don't bother cleaning the car at Suzuki Bergerac, in fact they like to leave dirty foot prints inside. They offered me a courtesy car which was an old Corolla Saloon with the wingmirror and front bumper held on with duct tape and a dented rear end. I decided to just wait in the showroom.

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Post by RichK on Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:36 am

Assume these recalls are just for diesels ?

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Post by JohnnyD on Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:45 pm

Yes.. as far as I can tell the recall is just for Diesels

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Post by JOHNWALES on Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:32 pm

Beginning of the end for diesels !!! You can imagine the first sentence of the salesman when we come to part exchange !!!

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Post by Gar Green on Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:28 pm

RichK wrote:Assume these recalls are just for diesels ?

Correct, auto and manual versions.
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Post by theforestdweller on Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:31 pm

Had the temperature sensor work done on my Vitara yesterday. The emissions adjustment was not done. My dealership said they were not offering this as a "freebie".
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Post by Gar Green on Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:24 pm

theforestdweller wrote:Had the temperature sensor work done on my Vitara yesterday. The emissions adjustment was not done. My dealership said they were not offering this as a "freebie".

They have to oblige if you ask.
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Post by JOHNWALES on Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:12 pm

Yes that is correct. The letter said it could be done at the same time at no charge.

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Post by Jamiebirse1982 on Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:23 pm

Got my letter this week. So what is it going to achieve ?

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Post by Gar Green on Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:41 pm

Jamiebirse1982 wrote:Got my letter this week. So what is it going to achieve ?

Nothing noticeable it would seem. No harm in getting it done mind. If you ever want warranty work carried out, this update will have to be done first.
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Post by JOHNWALES on Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:45 pm

My initial impression is that the read out fuel consumption is going to increase significantly. Difficult to prove because of the winter weather, and the fact that my previous reset was done some 3,000 miles back. Prior to the recall my read out was 64 m.p.g., the suggestion is now that it has changed to 57 m.p.g. Of course I am not sure what the real time figure is.

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Post by Jamiebirse1982 on Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:34 pm

God I'm only getting 49.6mpg since I got the car 9200 km ago...I'm going to have to ease off the pedal a bit

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Post by Gar Green on Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:32 am

Jamiebirse1982 wrote:God I'm only getting 49.6mpg since I got the car 9200 km ago...I'm going to have to ease off the pedal a bit

Who cares. Its about smiles per miles, plus you actuality want to get where you're going. 39mpg is more than fine for me
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Post by Admin on Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:34 am

I agree with Gar, I smile when people comment about a drop in mpg yet then counter complain about flimsy plastics and no spare wheel as standard, this weight loss is where the real mpg increases are gained

The recall letter is unfortunate as it is not really a Suzuki issue, Fiat (AKA Fix It Again Tomorrow) who have supplied the engine along with emission figures is where the fault lies. This recall along with the synchro problems on the 6 speed diesel gearbox sounds like a repeat of the earlier SX4 where all was fine in the world of unleaded but reliability figures scarred by the non Suzuki oil burners

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Post by jimbo on Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:54 pm

Had my recall done last week and the emissions adjustment at the same time , it now appears that the engine runs a lot smoother .

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