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Post by theforestdweller on Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:05 pm

Looks as if I have my first problems with the Vitara at 3 months old. The TPMS system appears to have malfunctioned. I have the Master Warning light flashing and the TPMS symbol on permanently. The display is alternating between "low tire pressure" (damned American spelling Exclamation ) and displaying the tyre pressures. Both rears at 31psi and fronts showing as 32 psi BUT the front offside is flagged as having low pressure! Have manually checked the pressures and all is OK - the manual readings agree with the TPMS.

So - Sensor malfuction or TPMS system malfunction Question The Vitara bible manual suggests system malfunction as the the TPMS symbol is permanently illuminated rather than a sensor malfunction. I'll  be calling the dealers tomorrow to get it looked at  Neutral .
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Post by Admin on Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:18 pm

Have you altered the tyre pressures between comfort and eco? If so you have to adjust the setting via the dashboard to eco or comfort depending what pressures you have

Had similar problem myself when changing wheels with the tyre pressure and TPMS flashing as I had contis on eco and yokys on comfort, adjusted yokys back to eco and all was good
I then adjusted the tpms to comfort on the dash then reduced tyre pressures

I know the cold weather can affect tpms settings

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Post by theforestdweller on Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:51 pm

Have done nothing to alter tyre pressures. Checked when cold today manually before first start of the day and got between 29 and 29.5 psi. TPMS said 29. After warming up this increased to 31/32 all round with warning theoughout a 10 mile each way trip.

It was on a similar earlier, and equally cold trip yesterday that the warning/error showed up. All as normal between home and store visited. Ten minutes in store and error showed as soon as I started up to return home and has remained ever since.
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Post by Admin on Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:25 pm

I'm thinking it is the cold weather, a quick google "TPMS and cold weather" reveals a host of sites stating problems with weather temperature, try adjusting the dash to Eco and the tyre pressures to suit to see if it eliminates the problem

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Post by theforestdweller on Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:35 pm

You're determined to get me out into the cold with the bl**dy manual aren't you Wink. However I think a more thorough check as you suggest is in order before I contact the dealers  Smile .
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Post by Admin on Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:11 am

I just know you will give your Vitara more respect than the new lad at the dealers who is more interested in his facebook status than your tpms problem Laughing

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Post by Phil on Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:05 am

Admin wrote:I just know you will give your Vitara more respect than the new lad at the dealers who is more interested in his facebook status than your tpms problem Laughing

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Harsh but probably true. :-)

To the OP you could try inflating the tyre to the max which should be on the sidewall and then bring the pressure down to what it should be. This will get some heat into the sensor and effectively put it thru a fairly active usage cycle. As above with swapping modes about as well.

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Post by Admin on Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:36 am

Just seen this on the Vivavitara FB page....

TPMS Problem Wp_ss_11

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Post by theforestdweller on Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:24 pm

Thanks to Karl for persuading me that I should investigate more fully (thus avoiding looking a complete pr&t at the dealers!).

It was either the cold weather or the fact that all the tyre pressures were low or a combination of the two that gave me the warning. I hadn't realised that the "comfort" setting for the tyres is quite so high. With a manual reading of around 29psi all round then it looks as if the tyres were under inflated from new. Checked the TPMS monitor which was set to "comfort" and then adjusted tyres to recommended pressure ie 35/33. Within a minute of driving the TPMS reset itself and no more warnings Smile . After a 20 minute drive rechecked the pressures and all were up by a further 2psi at normal working temperature. I'll leave alone for a few days and then check again. If pressures are still stable I'll reduce by 2psi to get the tyres to recommended pressures once warmed up.

Thanks Karl & Phil for your help and suggestions, and to the Vitara for telling the truth and I apologise to the vehicle for being a "Doubting Thomas" Rolling Eyes tongue Smile
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Post by Admin on Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:37 pm

Great news Roger, glad it was a simple fix study

I was riding my V-strom in the Alps a few years back and had a few twitchy moments which led me to check my tyre pressures, prior to leaving the UK I had gone over the bike with a fine tooth comb so knew the tyre pressures were correct but low and behold a combination on altitude and temperature drop I had lost 4psi each end which can be quite an eye opener with your bike fully laden with luggage on the twisties, ever since I have always checked the tyre pressures on all my vehicles upon arrival at any alpine holiday resort and a winter re check while at home in the UK

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Post by JOHNWALES on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:35 pm

I had a similar problem on my old S Cross, and the flashing warning light is annoying to say the least. I had to put up with it for 600 miles until I arrived at my destination in Bavaria. The Suzuki dealer tried all the options but came to the conclusion it was a damaged sensor, and he was right.
Apparently sensors are very vulnerable to damage when changing tyres.

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Post by Rattly on Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:07 am

Had the warning lights all come on yesterday. Increased tyre pressures to 2 psi above manual recommeded and it all reset and seems ok so far. The TPMS module is far too sensitive I had the same on 2 Scross SZ5's I had previously so wasn't overly concerned. Will see if its cured or not on trip today.
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Post by Gar Green on Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:56 am

TPMS warning will never come on when the tyres are above set pressure. it will only warn when the fall below. Just stick 1 extra PSI in.
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Post by Rattly on Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:59 am

Gargreen wrote:TPMS warning will never come on when the tyres are above set pressure. it will only warn when the fall below. Just stick 1 extra PSI in.
Thanks I will
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Post by hicky on Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:34 pm

gareth does the sz-t have the tpsm on it have not checked if mine has.cheers

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Post by Rattly on Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:51 pm

Yes, all Vitara models have it!
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Post by Admin on Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:52 pm

I think all Suzuki's 2015 on have TPMS but I'm sure Gar will confirm this

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Post by Gar Green on Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:32 pm

Not all but 9 out of 10 will have it roughly 2014 on. The poverty spec cars will not, i.e Celerio SZ2. But anything upwards will have.

Easiest way to tell is your tyre valves will be metal.
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Post by hicky on Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:04 pm

thanks for that gareth will check later.

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Post by malisani on Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:33 pm

Can anyone please write the recommended tyre pressures for ECO and Comfort modes of the Vitara's TPMS
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Post by Admin on Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:58 pm

Comfort
Front 33psi (230kpa) Rear 33psi (230kpa)

Eco
Front 41psi (280kpa) Rear 38psi (260kpa)

Before adjusting tyre pressures always select comfort or eco on the tpms menu via the dash

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Post by malisani on Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:06 pm

Thank you.

It's set to Comfort and the pressure is just right Smile
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Post by Admin on Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:11 pm

With temperature drops you may get a false low pressure warning, some members add +1psi to try and avoid this

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Post by mrgrimsby on Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:16 am

My tyre pressure warning came on this morning all 4 tyres 27psi, I'm assuming I just pump em up?

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Post by Rattly on Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:18 am

its the cold weather dropping the pressure! Pump them to just a little bit over the desired pressure
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