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Post by georgepana on Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:47 am

Hi everybody .4000 km with my NEW vitar allgrip diesel. light offroad until now.. thinking of lifting (mad susp. lifting kit) and changing tyres. from 215 55 17 to 215 65 16 AT. do you thing i am haveing any problems for example with all grip system?? ! by the way thank you for your fast response..i am still waiting to be accepted on the Greek vitara forum.... ooh yes.. i am from greece pirat

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:25 pm

Welcome georgepana to the Vitara Forum cheers

I take it your Vitara has TPMS? If so I think that is where you could possibly have problems with a 65 series tyre as it will have a different rolling radius to the standard 215/55R17 or 215/60R16

I have modified many Suzukis in the past with lift kits and tyres but the Vitara is the first with TPMS, with this in mind I have purchased some 16" alloy wheels and 215/60R16 Yokohama Geolandar AT/S to replace the oe 215/55R17
The tyres arrived yesterday (I will post a pic later) but iwill not be able to fit them for a week as I go on Holiday this weekend

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Post by georgepana on Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:38 pm

thak you karl you ve been very helpfull. i am looking forward for the pics!

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Post by Admin on Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:09 am

Just as a bit of technical stuff here are the tyre size overall diameter...

215/55R17 = 668mm

215/60R16 = 664mm

215/65R16 = 686mm

All European Vitara's have TPMS but the Golleck Vitara with the BF Goodrich All-Terrain 215/70R16 did not have the TPMS sensors fitted to the alloy wheels so could well have been fitted just for show purposes confused

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Post by Admin on Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:32 am

This picture does not really show the tyres that well...

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But here are the Geolandar AT/S in 205/70R15 on our Jimny...

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And 225/70R17 on the Grand Vitara...

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More tyre details here...

http://www.yokohama.co.uk/Tyres/Car-Tyres/SUV-Off-Road-Tyres/(product)/G012

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Post by georgepana on Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:57 pm

cant wait to see them on your vitara!!! i checked on the vitara catalogue for black wheels 16" but didnt find Sad Sad i wonder where can i find more choices.. have a nice holiday weekend!

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Post by Admin on Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:57 pm

The wheels I have are made by Wigar and designed for Yokohama tyres, Wigar also make a lot of Suzuki wheels, not sure if they are replica or genuine?

Remember any 16" wheel from a Suzuki SX4, S-Cross, Grand Vitara 2006> and Fiat Sedici will fit

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:25 pm

Just a follow up to your original question georgepana and oversize tyres...

I have been in Iceland where I had a rental Vitara 1.6 petrol automatic

Being winter it was fitted with studded Nexen Winguard tyres in 225/60R17 instead of the oe 215/55R17 which has a 34mm diameter difference
The Vitara fitted with these tyres did not have any TPMS warnings but what I did find was it was very sluggish on acceleration and the auto transmission kicked down at the slightest of gradients, many times it stayed in 4th gear and I manually had to shift up to 5/6th gear with the paddle shift, very annoying and I feel did not give a genuine impression of the Vitara's automatic gearbox
I have had a similar situation before where a friend had fitted 22/70R16 tyres to a 1.6 Grand Vitara manual and you could not use 5th gear, very much like how the Auto wanted to stay in 4th gear

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Suzuki Iceland unlike the rental company were fitting Bridgestone Blizzak in 215/55R17, I am guessing cost was a factor in the rental company fitting non oe size tyres?

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Post by georgepana on Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:16 pm

i was thinking if i wanted to keep the 17" wheels (save some money...) the only all terain solution is 215/60/17 which has 22mm difference. but i guess its a risk.. if i decide to buy 16" wheels i ll stick to your solution..even if they look small with the mad springs i am going to put on.. thanks Karl!

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Post by mrfinland on Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:11 am

Does anyone have "real" off road experience especially if you have engine skid plates etc. on your Vitara? How well it has done?

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Post by Admin on Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:35 pm

I'm not sure anyone has had there Vitara long enough to have taken it off road seriously , I have done some gentle trails and Snow work in Iceland but nothing serious as A: I have yet to do 2000miles B:I had the standard tyres on until last week

Most off road action can be seen in the various YouTube Videos where Press guys will take the Vitara further than maybe we will as they are not their vehicles and not concerned with damaging them

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Post by mrfinland on Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:11 pm

Yep. I think the Vitara underbody is pretty protected when you add skid plates for engine and rear diff. On real offroad the tyres will be limiting factor as you said. I eant do offroad for the sake of it but the bad road / snow capability will be tested on hunting and fishing trips. I'll report then.

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Post by Admin on Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:48 pm

Look forward not only to your reports of off roading in Finland but also some pictures, Finland is on my list of places to visit but I need to find a rental company that has Suzuki 4x4's

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Post by mrfinland on Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:40 pm

Surely I will post pictures and perhaps video once I get to ride my first Suzuki on Eastern Finland, Lapland etc. Smile

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Post by JOHNWALES on Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:00 am

Take it from me, the last thing you want to do is to interfere with the TPMS. These are easily damaged when changing tyres. On my old car ( S Cross ) the warning light started flashing 2 miles out of Calais; a autoroute stop and check revealed the pressures were right, and it was not until I reached Bavaria and arranged a replacement unit did the problem stop. I must say it was annoying to say the least as I could not over ride the warning.

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