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Post by Shenanigans on Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:53 pm

Hi
Picking up my Vitara in a couple of weeks. Thought I'd come and say hello.
Was relieved to find a forum for this gen of Vitara.
Hopefully get alot of information from this forum.

Only Suzukis I've owned are the ZC32 swift sport and the Ignis sport. It's the first semi AWD SUV I've owned.

Looking at getting a set of steel wheels and winter tyres for the up and coming winter. Alcar KFZ 6525.

Does anyone recommend a decent winter tyres?

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Post by Admin on Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:26 am

Welcome to the Forum Brad cheers

As you have owned Ignis and Swift Sports im sure the Vitara S will be as entertaining but of course with the added AllGrip

I have the Alcar steels and they fit perfectly on the Vitara,

http://vivavitara.forumotion.co.uk/t846-michelin-crossclimate-215-60r16-alcar-steel-wheel

Tyres I had fitted are the 215/60R16 Michelin Cross Climate + which I now have for sale
(reason for sale is I already have 3 sets of wheels and tyres for my Vitara)

http://vivavitara.forumotion.co.uk/t1090-for-sale-4-x-michelin-cross-climate-4-season-tyres

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Post by Fin69 on Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:24 am

With the weather you (can) experience in Stirling (my outlaws are from there) , I would say you would be better off with a dedicated Cold Weather tyre.

I commute around South Lanarkshire and from October to April/May the temperature barely rises above 7°c for most of that time.

In a previous job with a 0500 start, I would regularly come across icy conditions on the road, and this was in July and August. For that reason, I would consider the Michelin Cross Climates for my next 'summer' tyre, and switch over to my Cold Weather tyres as per my routine for the last 8 years.

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Post by Whytecat on Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:20 am

Hi Shenanigans

I have just fitted Michelin Alpin 5's and apart from a slight loss of MPG I find them so much 'better see thread
http://vivavitara.forumotion.co.uk/t1085-winter-tyres-going-on-next-weekend

The forum is very informative thumbl

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Post by Shenanigans on Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:53 am

Thanks very much for all the info so far.

Don't know if I'm reading it right but it sounds like the Allgrip or TPMS software is very picky.

I've just got one question in terms of running two sets of wheels. (standard 17" alloys with all season tyres/ 16" alcar steels with winter, snow tyres)

When changing over from one set to the other, am I right in thinking the car will need to recongise them in a set driving mode? Very much like BMW having different drivers saved as different modes.

Example, I cant drive in sport with the 16" steels then swap over to the 17" and stay in the same mode?

Hopefully I haven't confused or lost anyone halfway through that...

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Post by Admin on Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:21 am

The system is self learning so no expense of having to have the TPMS programmed
I have 3 sets of wheels currently programmed  to my Vitara (2 X 17" and 1 x16") and there are no restrictions on using Auto/Sport/Snow/Lock mode with the Allgrip

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Post by STDI on Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:29 pm

Each start resets the driving mode to "Auto". You have to choose any other mode after each start.
Driving mode has nothing to do with TPMS.

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Post by Shenanigans on Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:51 pm

Thanks for clearing that up. Just ordered a set of Alcar KFZ 6525 steels. Going to order at set of Yokohama Geolandar ATS G015 to go with them.

....it's happening again! Owner Forums are bad for the wallet! I havent even go the keys to it yet!

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:32 am

I run 215/60R16 Geolandar G015 on my S....

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Having used the previous G012 which proved faultless on Grand Vitara's, Vitara SZ5 and Jimny's my obvious choice was the new replacement G015 which were excellent in the snow/ice we had earlier this year
I am planning on a set of V905 Yokohama Wdrive for this winter just to see if there is any difference to the G015 but i certainly had no complaints or issues

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Post by Shenanigans on Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:40 am

I'm amazed the price of the TPMS...£60 each?!
Did you use OEM or aftermarket Karl?

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:54 am

I have always used OEM but saying that several sets (and factory fitted) were Continental but one set was branded VDO

I would have no reservations buying something similar to this....

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F252787073330

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Post by Shenanigans on Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:45 pm

Admin wrote:I have always used OEM but saying that several sets (and factory fitted) were Continental but one set was branded VDO

I would have no reservations buying something similar to this....

Karl

Cheers for that. No such thing as 'overnight parts from Germany' unfortunately. I'll let you know if I've been sold duds Razz

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Post by Shenanigans on Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:15 pm

Thought I'd update this with the cost of the tyres etc (I can't provide links yet)

Geolandar A/T G015 215/60R16 95H
£363.80 (tyres direct uk)

Alcar KFZ 6526 6.5Jx16
£196 (Oponeo)

OEM TPMS
£104 (eBay)

Total worked out to be £663.80 (excluding fitting)

Not bad I reckon...

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 pm

Not bad at all , I went the same route with my S but as in the above picture i used Genuine S-Cross accessory 6 x 16 Fuji Gloss Black alloys
Prior to the Jimny my Fiancé had a new Audi TT, one evening she hit a pot hole that caused a crack in the alloy and a bulge in the sidewall of the tyre...…..one tyre and one alloy wheel from Audi (no TPMS) £1200!!! makes 4 tyres/wheels/TPMS at £664 a bargain

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Post by Whytecat on Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:26 am

my Mrs said you could have bought a BMW for the money you paid for your Vitara but after 20 years of company BMW’s & seeing repair & service costs - er no thanks.
Anyway, the Vitara has more charm than all those Bmw’s put together & she now agrees

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Post by Shenanigans on Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:35 am

Whytecat wrote:my Mrs said you could have bought a BMW for the money you paid for your Vitara but after 20 years of company BMW’s & seeing repair & service costs - er no thanks.
Anyway, the Vitara has more charm than all those Bmw’s put together & she now agrees
I did look at the 320xdrive. They were similar costs, if not a couple a couple of thousand cheaper.
I've been caught out before with a BMW without warranty. So that's why I scored them out as I wanted something reliable and fun.

Also looked at the Mazda CX3 awd (similar costs) but decided it was a tad crampt and I preferred the capabilities of the Vitara.


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Post by Whytecat on Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:12 am

I looked at everything but for the money, looks, technology of the allgrip system, reliability, running costs & the Booster jet engine - it was a no brainer for me.

And its actually fun to drive !. win win win win win & win.


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Post by Shenanigans on Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:46 pm

Picked the Vitara up last night from the dealership. So happy to have got rid of the Saab that I part exchanged.

Needing to get my head around the mirror link as it's not working for my phone (Huawei P20 Pro). It's just coming up with "Real VNC Server".

Also need to see how you can have the interior lights come on when opening doors...

Apart from the above, I'm loving it so far.
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Post by Woodking on Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:09 pm

Looking good Shenanigans and I'm glad you like the Vitara S.

As for the interior lights, there is a switch on the top centre light - just set it to Doors and it'll come on when you open them.

A LED upgrade really makes a difference from the standard yellow glow and lights the interior a lot better. Lots of posts on here about it and its an easy job.

http://vivavitara.forumotion.co.uk/t1104-upgrading-internal-lights

You can also use the on screen computer - press the button to turn the ignition on, press and hold the right hand side stick on the speedo in for a good few seconds and you'll get into settings. Turn the stalk left or right to go up and down, select foot lights by pressing in the stalk and you can sync them to either main lights or doors. Mine are set to doors and light up the footwells so you can see better getting in/out of the car.

Whatever you do, don't go into TPMS and change anything without adjusting your tyres pressures first, as the screen will keep letting you know the pressures are wrong and you can't get rid of the warnings until you change the pressures! I may have done this without reading the manual first.... Laughing

Not sure about mirrorlink but the Bluetooth works well with my Samsung A3 and calls are fine and it reads out my text messages perfectly.

Hope this helps.


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Post by Shenanigans on Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:20 pm

Cheers for that! Will have a play around with that after work.

Just found out my headunit firmware is historic (the 0830 version) so I'll be updating that this weekend!

I'd preserver with the stock satnav assistant woman but I don't think she likes my scottish accent...so the quicker I get the google assistant working the better!

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Post by Admin on Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:52 pm

I'm not sure mirror link supported anymore and now uses Apple Car Play or Android Auto, I know with Android you need to install the Android Auto app and also ensure you have a genuine usb cable as many non gen cables will not work

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Post by maddog66 on Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:40 pm

Shenanigans wrote:Just found out my headunit firmware is historic (the 0830 version) so I'll be updating that this weekend!

Don't forget to check out this particular post HERE

Also the firmware download HERE

Hope it helps you!
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Post by Shenanigans on Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:44 pm

That's it updated (1860)with no issues! 😃
Happy days.

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Post by alec on Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:08 am

Is that Android Auto or Mirrorlink?
How did you do it? I can't get it working with my Honor 8x (made by Huawei)
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Post by Shenanigans on Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:14 am

It's Android Auto. Have you got the latest firmware on your Vitara?

The Huawei is on 8.1.0
The Vitara is 1860.2 something something

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